Which Klitschko brother was/is better at boxing?

Tyson fury is weird wrote:

If they met at their individual peaks, who would walk away the victor? Could Wladimir have beaten Fury?

Do you mean could Vitaly have beaten Fury?

Vitaly at his best was better that Wlad. In my opinion. Wlad at his best could have beaten Fury, and will probably beat him in the rematch.

Oops yeah sorry, i was typing too carelessly.

trollism wrote:

Tyson fury is weird wrote:

If they met at their individual peaks, who would walk away the victor? Could Wladimir have beaten Fury?

Do you mean could Vitaly have beaten Fury?

Vitaly at his best was better that Wlad. In my opinion. Wlad at his best could have beaten Fury, and will probably beat him in the rematch.

vlad walloped haye into a pup

he was better than vitali who was just a big slugger but no great shakes albeit too much claimed of his fight with lennox

if the 2 fought, vlad, maya won decison on outboxing despite at least 1 visit to deck

a peak Riddick Bowe wouda outboxed/ko'ed both of these bums

Where did the guy who started this thread mention Riddick Bowe you knobrash?

The rest of your post is kinda broken English, you think that Klitschko sister Maya might have beaten both? I dunno?.

inept

you have no clue about boxing

everyone wants to know the boys against each other

vlad wins despite at least 1 knockdown

as for their merit :

the Riddick of '92 dominating the hugely-beefed-up holyfield was by far the best "big man" champ of all-time

he wouda outboxed lennox with that crushing jab developed in pro's

similarly, he wouda walloped the vitali bros at pole-axing end of that sledgehammer jab

Boxing is a great sport for you Vento.

King of the Shouda, Wouda, Couda's.

He wouda outboxed Lennox had he not ducked him. Yeah, big bad Riddick of 1992 was scared.

You don't actually have any background in sport, do you?

big guys have too much 'bole

ali-frazier - '70

is considered biggest fight in history

as if 2 unbeateable titans collided !!!

however, it takes no consideration of circumstances

back then, all the promoters/tv wanted were 2 pristine guys for title, albeit ali had some banning

the problem was big bad Sonny Liston who inexplicably lost 2 fights to clay in '63 failed to fall down after

he got up & kept smashing everything in front of him for 5y

he got so savage in beating up his sparring partners, they had to pull in huge guys to stand up to his L hook

they eventually got in a 6'4 guy amateur-grad, who sparred with him in '68 & landed his hugest R hand on Sonny's chin

Sonny barely blinked

"That all you got nigga"

the guy who threw that R hand was

George Foreman

ask him who was toughest fighter of all

by late-'60s, they offered joe frazier $$$ to fight Sonny, in order for winner to get short-track to to number-1 or 2 contender, but joe's camp had absolutely no interest in fighting Sonny, who even as an ancient 40++y was considered far too big & powerful for the 195-runt frazier to enter a ring with

Sonny partied too much after realising he woudn't get another shot & George said he was basically drinking himself to death when he he lost his last fight badly

ask George :

did he he think frazier had a chance v Sonny in late-'60s when his manager ran away from him knowing ellis was bum he had to face for WBA & clay later

Vitali is the better of the two, simply because he is the tougher man. Wlad is more naturally talented but has always lacked toughness. Can you imagine him going through a war like vitali did against lewis? Of course not.

That said, if you were to rank them all time then i would have wlad higher simply because he has the better resume. He dominated the division for a long time, something vitali never did.

mellow seeds wrote:Vitali is the better of the two, simply because he is the tougher man

maybe

Wlad is more naturally talented but has always lacked toughness

no

it's hard to envisage what vitali wouda done against similar

go watch vitali's fight v derek

he was getting hit bad & happy to see final bell !!!

vitali was getting hit bad by a bum !!!

i don't reckon vitali was any great shakes at his "lennox peak"

both these guys wouda been hugely outboxed/hammered by Riddick

Can you imagine him going through a war like vitali did against lewis?

easily

superior jab

do you have clue about boxing ?

Of course not

nonsense

vlad's jab & movement wouda neutralised lewis to a stand-still

That said, if you were to rank them all time then i would have wlad higher simply because he has the better resume. He dominated the division for a long time, something vitali never did

no

not on that nonsense

absolute abilty : imo :

1) Riddick

2) vlad

3 ) lennox

4 ) vitali

You don't know shit about boxing.

riddick bowe threw a belt in the trash rather than fight lewis. Only an idiot would rank him higher.

You completely missed my point about going through a war like vitali did against lewis. I wasn't talking about who would win that fight, i was talking about whether wlad would actually have the balls to take a beating and keep going. Based on his losses to lamon brewster, corey sanders, and the mightly ross purity, I think it is safe to safe that a top ten all time heavyweight like lennox lewis would have knocked him out easily.

You have to be kidding if you think that Wlad was better than Vitali. Vitali was dominant and went down only when injured. Vitali owns the 3rd best knockout rate of heavyweights all-time, 87.23%. Dr. Ironfist was never once knocked down in his boxing career. He was ahead of Chris Byrd in virtually every round when he threw in the towel (literally) with a shoulder injury that was diagnosed as a torn rotator cuff. When he lost to Lennox Lewis, the latter opened up a cut to the eye, some of which damage he did in the clinch with the ref useless, and then the ref stopped the fight with Vitali ahead. Then Lewis retired rather than face Vitali for a mandatory rematch after Dr. Ironfist beat Kirk Johnson. Notably, for his next heavyweight title, Vitali faced Corrie Sanders, who had TKO'd Wlad in the second round of their fight, and Vitali TKO'd Sanders for the title. Vitali knocked down Danny Williams, who had beaten Mike Tyson, four times before the fight was stopped. After nearly four years out with injuries and retirement, he came back to force Samuel Peter to quit after 8 rounds (Wlad had narrowly beaten Peter in a decision, despite being knocked down three times), giving him his third time with a World Heavyweight championship. After being dismantled by Vitali, Shannon Briggs said that he had fought Foreman (obviously long after his prime) and Lewis, but that Vitali was the best.

He was also a six-time world kickboxing champion but tested positive for a steroid (during rehab) and did not compete in the Atlanta Olympics where his brother, Dr. Steelhammer, won the super heavyweight title. In favor of Wlad, he also beat Chris Byrd twice (the injury having kept Vitali from winning his bout). But he barely beat Peter, he was dominated by Sanders, and he lost to Lamon Brewster, whom he later beat with a broken finger, and then of course he lost the title to Tyson Fury last time out. We'll see if Fury can beat him in a rematch. As I read this fight, Fury's multiple unorthodox styles flummoxed Wlad and he could not adjust. He might be able to adjust in a rematch, but he just did not look particularly good. I watch this and I say that Vitali was the better fighter.

That nonsense about Sonny Liston, who was well past his prime at that point, and Frazier, among the toughest of all time. The heavyweight ranks were never better than with Ali, Frazier, Foreman and others in the 1970s.

utterly clueless

what part of :

derek-smacked-vitali-about-for-12-rounds

can't you comprehend ???

ventolin^3 wrote:

utterly clueless

what part of :

derek-smacked-vitali-about-for-12-rounds

can't you comprehend ???

What part of ross purity knocked wlad out do you not understand?

Hey Dope,

First Ali/Frazier fight was in March '71

The rest of your post is incoherent babble.

ventolin^3 wrote:

utterly clueless

what part of :

derek-smacked-vitali-about-for-12-rounds

can't you comprehend ???

Chisora lost the fight at the Olympiahalle 119-111, 118-110, 118-110.

People who know about boxing seem to be illiterate. This thread has some of the most poorly written posts on this message board.

And the bar is set low.

ventolin^3 wrote:

what part of :

derek-smacked-vitali-about-for-12-rounds

can't you comprehend ???

Besides the fact that it was a wide UD to Vitali, you do realise that he was 41 and on the cusp of retirement at this point?

Del Boy didn't really smack him around, he came forward threw a lot of punches and was generally brave (renowned for his solid chin). Vitali was never in any really trouble and there was never any doubt about the result.

(I'm guessing you didn't watch the fight and, as usual, are just bluffing in the hope nobody notices.)